Public Comments for: HB2495 - Firefighters and emergency medical services providers; collective bargaining.
Last Name: Tillman Locality: Virginia Beach

Please do not support any of these three bills: HB 2089, HB 2495, and HB 2764. If passed, any of them will cause many problems for the vast majority of Virginia's citizens. We do NOT need collective bargaining in the Commonwealth. I am speaking from experience as a retired City of Virginia Beach employee with over thirty-three years of service. Thank you. Thomas K. Tillman

Last Name: Flowers Locality: VA Beach

Vote NO to collective bargaining!! There is nothing good that will come from this!

Last Name: Howard Locality: Virginia Beach

Please do not mandate unions to collectively bargain for public employees. Theres a reason residents are leaving the high taxes states like New York Public services such as policing the streets and putting out fires gives government a monopoly. Collective bargaining is not about a seat at the table or customer service, it's about control. Unions work everyday to take control over the very governments that employ their members. They run up the cost of government, taxpayers are left out of the process while negoications take the decision-making authority over government functions away from the people's elected representatives and transferring them to union officials, with whom the public has vested no such authority. There is a difference between private and public unions. the private sector has to compete in the market place to keep cost down, they could go out of business if customers choose to shop elsewhere, the public sector on the other hand has no such controls. While the private sector makes money, the public sector spends money they don't go out of business their only choice is to raise taxes or reduce services. Collective bargaining is adversarial you don't just sit down and negotiate a contract every 3 years. In between there are grievances, charges, labor disputes, disagreements on contract language. Unions work every day to gain power to exert control over the very governments that employs their members. They will take control over working shifts, hours, conditions, equipment; they will insist management needs to consult with them before implementing rules any of kind. Non-union employees will be given the worst assignments and shifts to convince them to join they also don't like voluteers as many of our EMS are. It's not about customer service Even though striking is not allowed Unions will threaten to walk out, "work the rule", call in sick or do work slowdowns. Didn't the teacher’s union keep schools closed for almost two years during Covid? The National Unions have years of experience our localities do not! Unions will insert language that benefits them not taxpaers or management into contracts like: Arbitration: taking decision making away from management puts a third party in control, terminations and even discipline can be overturned or Tenure, making it nearly impossible to fire a bad teacher as in NY. Organizational leave: so union members can attend union conferences, Fairfax County Public Schools paid $5.8 million in 2016 for “organizational leave” to teacher’s union officials. Access to employee information; a violation of privacy rights and loss of productivity as they will want to meet with employees during working hours. Automatic Payroll deduction of union dues and rules limiting when employees can decline paying them. An Evergreen clause, simply stated a contract stays in effect until a new one is agreed to, which gives them NO Incentive to come to the table during a financial crisis or recession. During a downturn in the economy Miami thought that and declare a financial crisis changing their union contracts, the police union sued them saying they hadn't fired non-unions employees, raised taxes or put in street cameras, their supreme court agreed. In 2008 Vallejo California tried for 2 years to negotiate with their unions they finally filed bankruptcy. During Covid the city of Cincinnati had to furlough over 1700 people, the unions would not agree to renegoiate their contracts.

Last Name: Howard Locality: Virginia Beach

OPPOSE Collective Bargaining Public services such as policing the streets and putting out fires gives government a monopoly. Collective bargaining is not about a seat at the table or customer service, it's about control. Unions work everyday to take control over the very governments that employ their members. They run up the cost of government, taxpayers are left out of the process while negoications take the decision-making authority over government functions away from the people's elected representatives and transferring them to union officials, with whom the public has vested no such authority. There is a difference between private and public unions. the private sector has to compete in the market place to keep cost down, they could go out of business if customers choose to shop elsewhere, the public sector on the other hand has no such controls. While the private sector makes money, the public sector spends money they don't go out of business their only choice is to raise taxes or reduce services. Collective bargaining is adversarial you don't just sit down and negotiate a contract every 3 years. In between there are grievances, charges, labor disputes, disagreements on contract language. Unions work every day to gain power to exert control over the very governments that employs their members. They will take control over working shifts, hours, conditions, equipment; they will insist management needs to consult with them before implementing rules any of kind. It's not about customer service Even though striking is not allowed Unions in other localities are already threatening to walk out over what's in their ordinance to allow it. They will "work the rule", call in sick or do work slowdowns. Didn't the teacher unions keep schools closed for nearly 2 years during COVID? Unions insert language that benefits them not management into contracts like: Arbitration: taking decision making away from management puts a third party in control, terminations and even discipline can be overturned. It's demoralizing for those employees doing a great job while non performing emp;oyees are still employed, customer service becomes a downward spiral. Taxpayers will be paying for non government services like Organizational leave: so union members can attend union conferences, Fairfax County Public Schools paid $5.8 million for “organizational leave” to teacher’s union officials. Union will want Access to employee information; a violation of privacy rights and loss of productivity as they will want to meet with employees during working hours. Automatic Payroll deduction of union dues . An evergreen clause, simply stated a contract stays in effect until a new one is agreed to, which gives them NO Incentive to come to the table during a financial crisis or recession. Once you agree on a contract don't think that you will have control during a downturn in the economy Miami thought that when they declared a financial crisis changing their union contracts, the police union sued saying they hadn't fired non-unions employees, raised taxes or put in street cameras, their supreme court agreed. In 2008 Vallejo California tried for 2 years to negotiate with their unions they finally filed bankruptcy. During Covid the city of Cincinnati had to furlough over 1700 employees, the unions would not agree to renegoiate their contracts. The highest taxed states in the union have public employee unions, just say NO to collective bargaining

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